Kojima Says MGS4 Demo Could Run On XBox360 >

	2005/11/15 8:20:10: Posted by DM
	For all of you who are using the Metal Gear Solid 4 real time demo to hide behind, it looks like your favorite hiding spot may be evaporating before your eyes. According to a video posted at 1up, the editor claims that Kojima himself said that the MGS4 demo could have run on the XBox360 hardware. The hell you say? Watch the video and see for yourself, although we have been saying all along the consoles are more equal than people realize in terms of graphic power. >Link
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take that you sony whores

it's funny how, during the first years of Xbox vs. PS2, where Xbox was clearly more superior in the graphics and processing department (heck, every hardware-related department, for that metter), the Sony fanboys always cried out "it's not about the graphics!" but when they think that the PS3 will be graphically superior to the 360, they all cry out "it will have better graphics!"

those of us with any intelligence just need to realize that these fanboys will always find any little excuse they can to keep their fanboy fires burning, even if it means being completely contradictory to themselves. they won't change because then they would have to admit that they were wrong. we all know it takes a man to admit it when he's wrong, not a (fan)boy.

Any of the next gen consoles are capable of playing eachother's launch titles. Launch title's never use full capacity (or anywhere near it) of a console. Only nearing the end of the next five years will you see MS make another half-assed console in under 4 years to try and undermine the competition with an earlier release... Much like this time.

If you look at the architecture behind both systems, it's pretty clear that the Xbox 360 has the technological advantage.

I don't know why anyone believes Sony when they suggest otherwise.

tg, Did he say it wouldn't look as good? Nooooooo.Dumbfuck

kRaSh32, how is the 360 half-assed? Just because MS is using convential hardware, and not some crazy unproven technology, that makes it "half-assed"? The 360 will be more powerful than a top-of-the-line pc for at least a year. And yet it is "half-assed".

I think somepeople are just jealous that I'll be playing nextgen games in a week, not oh when is the PS3 coming out? Sometime next year, ouch.

Sony fanboys really do annoy me. They listen to Sony's blatent bullshit and lies. Anyone remember Sony claiming Toy Story graphics on the PS2? The real hardware came no where near that. I see no reason to believe their pre-rendered killzone videos and "0.2 teraflops" performance claims for the cell.

Without time consuming, difficult optimisation it seems the cell is little more than a normal PowerPC core. The Xbox 360 has 3 of those. The PS3 GPU is just a modified G70 GPU which was released early this year; by the time the PS3 is released it'll be pretty old (assuming the PS3 release is Q3 2006 or later). The Xbox 360 GPU won't be matched/overtaken by PC graphics cards until the r600 series comes out mid 2006 I guess. SLI 7800GTX 512MB might have taken over both of them already in performance anyway.

Let's face it guys it about brands not specs in the end and there's only one winner there.

I mean you can chuck as much money at a project as you like but in the end it boils down to this.

How many times have you relied on a PC over the years and how many times has it let you down?

It's an association the Microst will never be able to shake off and it's destroyed thier brand, even though in many cases it's not their software thats at fault. But in the end all that money subsidises great games which eventually benefit the other more profitable players. It's quite ironic really when you think about it.

Let's face it guys it about brands not specs in the end and there's only one winner there.

I mean you can chuck as much money at a project as you like but in the end it boils down to this.

How many times have you relied on a PC over the years and how many times has it let you down?

It's an association the Microst will never be able to shake off and it's destroyed thier brand, even though in many cases it's not their software thats at fault. But in the end all that money subsidises great games which eventually benefit the other more profitable players. It's quite ironic really when you think about it.

well as it is now the sony harware is being cut in many places to try to bring down the price.... Sony already recognizes that ther will be a problem snagging the casual gamer if your product starts at twice the price of the competition although your graphical ability is almost the same(this was the main reason the gamecube got any sales at all).... by the time ps3 is released... the 360 will have taken an annual price cut as a lot of consoles do...shaving 50-100 dollars off the price. that along with the fact that sony is beggining to lose its exclusivity with even the japanese dev is a problem.... If sony starts to see their product is losing their support they may decide to delay....

well as it is now the sony harware is being cut in many places to try to bring down the price.... Sony already recognizes that ther will be a problem snagging the casual gamer if your product starts at twice the price of the competition although your graphical ability is almost the same(this was the main reason the gamecube got any sales at all).... by the time ps3 is released... the 360 will have taken an annual price cut as a lot of consoles do...shaving 50-100 dollars off the price. that along with the fact that sony is beggining to lose its exclusivity with even the japanese dev is a problem.... If sony starts to see their product is losing their support they may decide to delay....

I don't know about other people, but my laptop has never let me down in the 2 years I've had it. The one I had for two years before that never did either. Maybe the problem is less with the OS and more with the people using it?

As for the consoles, both are going to be about as powerful as the other in the long run. Unless there's some huge change in how the CPU runs games, the GPUs are similar in power, and most of what gamers look at comes from the GPU.

Ok, well the PS3 and the Xbox maybe the same in graphics but remember this. PS3 has blueyray which is 54 GB of data, and someone made one that had up to 100GB. Xbox 360 uses a duallayer DVD making 9GB. Remember N64 had 64bits while PS1 had 32 but look at Final Fantasy VIII. It looked a lot better than anything N64. While they may be the same in certain things, the PS3 will not be out dated as fast as the 360.

Its still cheaper to make 5 9gig DVDs vs. 1 54GB Blue Ray. Therefore the price in games will still be cheaper for the Xbox 360. I dont mind changing disc every 3 hrs if it means that I saved $20+.

Can i ask something?Where is the video proof that shows kojima say that?Can someone direct me to it...except if we must blindly believe the author.

Something is fishy here....the video proof is nothing more than the presentantion of the x360 on 1up website...Where is the proof? Is the author "claims" a proof by its own :S

If PS3 don't change it's spec, and give more detail on the GPU to CUP comme, it is without a doubt, PS3 has better graphics, the Cell processer and a combination of good software and hardware driver (which they kinda did in the past) will make the difference. MS used all current technology to create the 360, if apple is not making the switch to Intel, MS would never seal the Xbox 360 CPU deal with IBM. Xbox shared 512MB ram disspointed me a little because while the CPU being the superior part in the GPUCPU component the CPU don't get the shared it deserved and it would create a bottleneck for the CPU, adding the extra cache would never keep up with the Cell because the RAM is shared. furthermore, despite the hardcore fans on both sides, read the 360 spec carefully and u will find many bottlenecks, the "256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM" with "21.6 GB/s front side bus" meaning that yes the cache comme with the CPU 256 GB/s but what use dose it do? runing 3 * 1 MB program at a time super fast while the data is coming into the CPU 21.6GB/s at a time? Don't wanna keep going...

kojima never said anything like this ..this is hoax too just like the AGEIA emails....damn CELL is easily 10x more powerful than xenos and ps3 3x more powerful than x360...even bill gates knows that...go to MGS4 's own webiste for clarification...

BREAKING new:::::kojima never said MGS4 could run on x360...it was 2 stupid comedians of 1up who said so....here is the link to the article

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145585&did=1

lets face it xbox 360 is out now and the ps3 is out next year people want things when they come out and because of xmas it's going to be on lists so ps3 has no chance of selling unless they are rich.

Kojima: MGS4 demo could run on the Xbox 360



Posted Nov 16, 2005, 2:00 PM ET by James Ransom-Wiley

Related entries: Action, Adventure, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360

Metal Gear Solid 4 demoAccording to a 1up.com video post, Hideo Kojima has admitted that the Xbox 360 is capable of running the Metal Gear Solid 4 real-time demo. Despite the PlayStation 3 propaganda on display throughout the demo, Kojima’s comments reaffirm many gamers’ opinions that the two next-gen consoles aren’t separated by much in terms of sheer graphical power. Today’s lesson: Don’t be a victim of hype.

[Thanks, SilverScyth]

Here is the link. Its the two videos.

http://www.gamersreports.com/news/101/

Personally, I believe the PS3 will be far superior to the XBox360 based on its specs. A cell processor, need I say more?! However, I will though;PS3 also has a faster graphics core clock speed, RSX "Reality Synthesizer" graphics processor, a higher resolution, it supports up to 7 controllers at once, has Blu-ray disk technology which allows it to store 97GB of data on a single disk, and the PS3 also has a higher memory bandwith. Lastly, the PS3 will continue to have far superior games and a wider variety than Xbox360. Therefore, PS3 is just flat-out superior to the Xbox360. Despite its later release date PS3 will probably sell far better as well.

I dont have any idea wich will be better but i did hear that that how blu ray thing has a realy slow transfer rate and it makes to load times longer,a hole lot longer,and 7 cores and x360 has just 3 and it has had some heat problems. shit with ps3 puting out that much heat theres going to be a shit load of fire and molten plastic comin out the ass end of that thing. that just what i think. but if i a rong then i will bye one my self and be like fuck ya this thing rocks. but is i am right and it blows up well im whaching my porn than i will be fucking pist.

Yes it's true he did say it could be done on 360 but in the same sentence, I assume your quoting from the Edge magazine interview he said it would be years befor he could tap the full "seemingly unlimited" power of PS3. It seems that last comment has been conveniently forgotten.