PS3 Vs. Xbox360 Graphics Comparison >

	2006/11/29 13:59:27: Posted by vividbreeze
	1up is currently running a feature which compares the graphics of some of the multi-platform next-gen games on both the Playstation 3 and Xbox360. The article basically questions the value of the Cell processor because most of the comparisons are equal, at best. In fact, a lot of times the Xbox360 graphics win out. Now, of course there are many legitimate reasons for this, the main reason being that the Xbox360 has been out for a year longer. Check it out and decide for yourself. >Link
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regardless of of the 360 being out a year earlier developers have been working on the Cell for almost 2 years since march of 05. if that isnt enough time with the Cell then there is little hope. its powerful sure, but how much of that power is useful for gaming applications?

there is no reason behind these results if the ps3 was really 2X as powerful as the 360 (which its not). the xbox is much more powerful then the ps2 and has shown it since day 1, there was no need to learn and tap into the xbox's power.

rubbish to anyone willing to be so blind to hide behind excuses

hmm there is going to be a firestorm of comments coming . if the games keep looking like this then i might get an xbox . of course after i find a wii...

The xbox will always be out a year longer so they're saying the xbox will always look better?

hmm good point.. they cant use that excuse forever

remember the ps2 cpu was more powerful than the xbox gpu? That doesnt mean ps2 games are more powerful than xbox games now does it? Its all about the gpu, and i think its safe to say the 360's gpu is beyond that of the ps3's.

otoole actually the ps2's CPU was superior to the xbox's CPU in floating point performance (2.9 GFLOPs xbox vs 6.2 GFLOPs ps2) but the CPU in the xbox was more geared for gaming. it obviously didnt make a difference that the ps2's CPU had almost 3 times the floating point performance last round.

you are right though that its the GPU that will determine the look of the game and there is no comparison, the 360's Xenos still rules over many cards released even today.

kenny. doesnt the same thing apply for next-gen? The ps3 has better numberes on paper but the 360 has a better cpu for gaming purposes. ?

great comments people no one's gone fanboy. the 360 and ps3 are going to be prety much equal i'd say even if one is more powerful than the other, its the exclusive games coming out that will have the superior graphics and in the end i'd say buy a 360 and Wii purely becuse of the price of the ps3, why buy one graphics machine when you can have one with the 360 and one gameplay machine with the Wii. still the ps3 has't been even touched by developers yet so it could have great games in the next year.

Hello Fellow Gamers. The PS3 launch Titles are ok, but in now way are they a MUST OWN. We all knew that the PS3 games are going to get compared to the X360 launch & current titles. Meaning that really there isn't much difference. There's still going to be some exclusives for all 3 consoles, but not as many you would all think to be console only exclusives. continuess ....

continues...Now All I hear & read from people is "Wait until next year, Then you'll really see what they can do with a PS3". Ok, now since the launch of the Wii & PS3, Do you all think that development for the X360 is going to stop? IF you think that it is ..then I'm sorry for ya. We've all seen Gears in action & from this point on every game will be graphically compared to it. Can you imagine how much better the games will be for the X360 next year? The PS3 games MUST outdo or @ least look as good as GEARS within a years time, but by then as i said b4 the x360 games will still be on another level. continues..

Conclusion .....Also this History repeats itself crap. It's "If we repeat history. As all of you can recall M$ just gotten in the video game market (xbox1 is only about 5yrs old) (X360 1yr old). Has there ever been a Monster company like MicroSoft to ever compete in the videogame industry? I think not. They have the backing (TONS OF $$$$$$) to keep them going for years to come. This time around there's no repeat. SOny & Nintendo Have some real competition. I think they really Know that M$ is no push over. In fact we might see a NEW leader in the video game industry & it's neither of the Japanese companies for a change. GO American.

$2 says I'm back on the PC gaming bandwagon by this time next year. Consoles have failed me! I want more power. 1920x1080 @ 60fps without sacrificing a thing. I can dream can't I?

Also, the format of this story is very reminicent of 1up / EGM heckling Peter Moore for his overly bold statements right after the release of the xbox 360. They're just jaded like the rest of us. Videogames suck! :D

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This is a much better review, it shows the ups n downs of both systems in technical form, though i doubt most of you would even understand :> EGm rejects

At this point on, its not really about how much time you have to learn on a system (Shit Xenos has been in secret with many developers as well as Ps3 with EA, enough for them to post on dev forums about it), its all about effort, EVen first year hand, we don't see games pumping up to their in game concept (Madden Next gen concept, Ghost recon, Call of duty Commercials), like the artical mentions , they got people who's been working on this stuff (parallel processing) for years and still hasn't untap all the potential. I seen more effort coming from japanese developers such as Lost Odessey, Lost Planet, Devil may cry 4, Mgs4, etc. even with previous gens (Ps2 games like Zoe, devil may cry 3, Ninja Gaiden /DOA looks better than any regular xbox game still ) while variety of most American/Euro developers are still struggling somewhat (Frame rate loss) while a very few makes it look good (Gears of War)

BTW this has nothing to do about Ps3 being 2x as powerful, nobody is saying that or even making excuses, so please keep that one track mind off for good.

Right now its all about games and their exclusives, you can have the most powerful hardware here and there but it won't mean shit if it doesn't have the games, or the games themselves being fun enough

Like the article says both machines have their ups and downs, xb360 has the upper hand in gpu (more controlled fillrate, memory and 10mb edram for no bottlenecking) while Ps3 has the upper hand in cpu (All Cores are sep meaning no bottle necking with the CPU at all and it can achieve effects better this way)

But also look at the weaknesses for both machines

I also find it funny about the out of execution processors, so my Dual Core 2 is much better than 360 and ps3 combined ? :>



So the concept with Ps3 also applies with xb360, and lets face it, their First gen of games don't look visually any impressive as the jump we got with say Dreamcast, they sure add all this gimmick stuff to conceal that though :> They still need time ( Might be seeing 1080p better with no struggle on 360 soon)

Im a big movie fan, and i need to buy the HD dvd add on for the 360 to view the movies..

with the ps3 you get it all in one :)

and ofcourse ratchet and clank, jak and daxter creators.. devil may cry, final fantasy, MGS4 (maybe on 360 later on) ..

I think the graphics will be pretty much the same.. maybe the PS3 will be able to handle more particles on screen and that kinda stuff..

everybody says Gears of war Pwn3d PS3... but in my opinion gears of war is just very normal mapping sensitive and specular. nonetheless.. the game does look awesome.. good job epic games :P

Crazyray, i understand that you "need" to buy a HD movie format and the ps3 includes that but the majority of gamers out there are not in your boots. they dont need and more then likely dont want a HD movie player because majority of the houses and gamers in the market dont even have a HDTV. also while it may be convenient, i dont think its right that sony dragged the gaming market into the next gen movie format war. pointing anything that the ps3 has is pointless, yes its nice, but none of it is needed. the only thing that should be needed for a game console is that the system is geared towards gaming in every way possible. <- this can not be said about the ps3.

^^^ I was thinking about getting the hd-dvd add-on for the 360, but i soon realized i don't buy movies period. i just download them. i have a 56 hdtv from samsung, but i'd rather just download my divx movies. i don't plan on getting into the whole HD movie thing for a long time.

me neither i can see myself buying some hd movies but i'm not re-buying the ones i already have.

im just sitting by and enjoying my DVD collection while i wait for this stupid format war to end. i refuse to take part in it because i dont care to get burned. besides it has become a lot easier since microsoft launched their download service. now i can watch some movies in HD without the chance of getting screwed later on.

So whats the point of HD era that Ms was bragging about? :>

Blu ray support alone is the reason why the price tag is jacked up the ass, there could be a positive or a negative thing about it, so far it seems to be working, maybe blu ray will have an edge for the moment, I see blockbuster video stores stocking up on blu ray more than HD-DVD, i had to ask them for HD-DVD titles and they are still on limited quantity while they have a shitload of blu ray, i still see plenty of HD-DVD drives at walmart...

Renting movies is so much cheaper and convienent than anything online related, as well as instant access to new releases, while there will be a period of waiting like Movie HD channels...

This is my first post here and seem pretty impressed with this site thusfar..

This is my take on this subject..I myself am a pc gamer and have been quite sometime..I waited til just a week ago to get a new xbox 360..And yes it is greatly probably due to the gears of war games ,also by the fact that in most cases, other than maybe a nba sports game or something of that nature that might had gotten the same reviews for both systems. The 360 is just right out hurting the ps3..Now with that said,there is something to consider to this.The first games made are for the first system out usually.. Meaning that they are ported and patched to some degree for the newer system alot of the times.. (cont.)

And yeah, atleast at this momment, Sony is looking pretty pathetic in my opinion..For the lack of systems and the overall visual lying that has taken place for the past two E3's..I do believe that sony will get it together and that there will be many many ps3's in many us houses in the next five years..And with these two giant of companys putting all there money on high resolution, it can't do anything but to help the high res world for tv's and the more the better the quality and the more technology evolves quicker..(The next res is going to be 1440p)..I say bring on the technology and we can thank these two giants for the little push.It will help pricing on tv's now that it HAS to be a standard.. (cont.)

The ONLY reason that I bought an xbox 360 is due to the fact that pc gamers are going to be basically robbed for the next year due to sony and microsoft..But then that's just how the console world works when it comes to software..Then you have to consider DX10 and Vista..So really no sense of sitting around with a nice pc playing games like prey for the next year and whatever pc scraps that are thrown to us while the unreal 3 engine is already available to us through gears of war..

I game with a high def panasonic projector ptL-500u set at 11'X 7' screen and so I get to see upclosely how gears of war really looks and textured out..I believe that epic took a great pc game for the most part and probably one that the 360 could run the hell out of probably set on high for the most part..Then toned it down a little so to keep the wanted 60fps, which is reasonable I believe when thinking this is a mass produced console with alot of people not knowing or really caring about resolution for the most part..In my humble opinion I think that the pc game call of duty 2 maxed out looks as good if not better on my pc than gears does..It just loses it's crispness with a slight wash on color on the big screen..(cont.)

BUT, at the same time I have a 53" sony running 1080i and couldn't ask for a better looking game and absolutely no jagged edges..Taken into consideration how many families honestly have high def 11' home theatres in there house and more likely closer to a 60" and puts this game and system right in place where it should be at..I really really enjoyed playing gears on my big screen today at 1080i..It's the first time that I had taken the time to disconnect my 360 from the projector.

Also, Call of duty 3 has the most action on the screen at one time that I have ever seen. (Enough action that makes you feel feantic or even just a small part of the big picture of a big and very real war..) AGAIN, another title that side by side and framerates that the 360 puts the sony to sleep.. Same story,a little washed out from the crispness that I am use to on the projector as opposed to high pc settings ..But absolutely beautiful on sony 53" at 1080..These games are the next gen for the most part..And yeah, I agree, Microsoft didn't have any good games for the first year for the most part..

I'm not riding on everything being in the game Halo 3 either..Just a gut feeling.. It has to seriously play second fiddle to epic's GOW..And might even take them back to the drawing boards a little longer to try and make it better.. But I can't wait to see Brothers in Arms and Cipher complex, and crysis On the 360.

I will have to say that leaving gear of war on the big screen and walking away and coming back to it gives you the biggest "wow" that I have seen in a long long time..Or a person walking in and saying.. "Man that looks real.."And this is with a year old console with 3X 3.2 processors and a nice ATI card.Just think, GOW is a third person shooter with alot of detail being put into the character himself and lighting effects..Running at 1920X1080!! So truthfully , how many people have computers that can do that..And for under $400!!

My conclusion..Microsoft is answering peoples call for the next gen console just fine.. With Cliff B. stating they are just scratching the surface as to what the system can truly do and compared to there newest games coming out..I am a true keyboard and mouse guy..But I do love the wireless control, feedback and even the simple fact that you can power up the system or shut it down with it..Nice touches in my opinion.. If sony doesn't play catch up with identical game releases this year in visuals and frames/sec. (which I believe that they probably will eventually ..) Some people really high on the totum pole at sony should be fired!!

p.s. Sorry for the long submit..Just had alot to say about such a hot subject.. : 0)

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Actually, Cliffy B has stated that Gears taxes the hell out of the 360, much like the HDDVD add on.

As far as onscreen action, RFoM has the market cornered in that department.

all that has ever been said about GoW is that its pushing the system as hard as they can CURRENTLY push it. it doesnt max it out or come close even, there have been plenty of games that "maxed out" the 360 so far (oblivion, GRAW, full auto, GoW) but none do.

in reality GoW probably uses far less power then you realize. there is a difference between what a game uses and how a game uses such components.

also i would give the onscreen action to CoD3 over R:FoM. GoW isnt too far behind either of them with some of the action that takes place, the fact that it looks much better then either CoD3 or RFoM says something