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E308: Final Fantasy 13 Coming To Xbox360 >
2008/07/14 14:08:32: Posted by DM
Just announced by the president of Square, folks. Final Fantasy 13 will be coming to the Xbox360. They told us we were crazy when we said it a year ago, but there you have it. Stick with GR, we know our stuff.

Update: According to the word on the street, there will be no Japanese-language Xbox360 release of Final Fantasy 13, a.k.a. no release in Japan. Time will tell if this holds true, but if MS wants to try to capture the Japanese gamer, they would be stupid to let that happen.

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Written by dudeman on 2008/07/14

how many discs will it come on? 10+?
Written by SupremeChaotic on 2008/07/14

Aww... someone's a bit angry that their system lost yet ANOTHER exclusive to the Xbox 360.

We still love you, dudeman. Well... not really...
Written by incoming00 on 2008/07/14

wow. simply wow.
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/07/14

this is history Krogan aka unbaised whatever u call yourself now a days; boy george, I apoligize for call u a bullsh!ter when u said this would happen i don't know if that was a gooood guess or u do have connects to people in the industry ..but my bad.

on topic;

well ... im Not speechless ... i just dont know what to say about the news... oh i do.. i would .. um this good for those ff fans
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

GAME OVER SONY.
Written by B1ueBurneR on 2008/07/14

this is good news for those FF Fans
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

Stick a fork in Sony their done...

Wheres Krogan. He needs to post something. Damn son he was right...
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

SDF has just left the building...
Written by incoming00 on 2008/07/14

i think most of what Urdnot said were just educated guesses. he must've understood the market better then any of us and was able to "predict" certain things. but that doesnt mean he hasnt been wrong either. MGS4 is still on the PS3, Blu-ray won, and the PS3 is still here, limpin now but still here.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

incoming00: Your right. But it still seems funny that Krogan was right about this. I knew Blu-Ray would win. Wasn't sure about MGS4. And I know the PS3 won't fail. But it's not going to even get a sniff of the success it got the past 2 generations.

This "1" game was the biggest reason for me to buy a PS3. And now that the 360 is getting the game. WOW. JUST WOW.
Written by dudeman on 2008/07/14

SDF is here... LOLing at the xbots major overreactions and assumptions. hilarious!!
Written by incoming00 on 2008/07/14

i think what made sony look worse was cancelling 3 major games. thats what we PS3 users need: good games out the window and only Home and LBP! lol............
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

dudeman: Come on Dudeman I'm watching the Press Conference all over gain on G4 now. I get to see the death of Sony on my 40 inch LCD this time instead of my 20 inch monitor.

incoming00: I'm still gonna get a PS3. Only it's main use will now be for Blu-Ray and Final Fantasy 13, oh sh!t damn I forgot thats on the 360 now. Well I guess it's just Blu-Ray now :p

Come on fellas laugh. It's funny. Who knows at this time tomorrow Sony may drop a bigger bomb and I will be eating crow. But this is BIG news.
Written by incoming00 on 2008/07/14

PimpDaddy: i'm still gonna enjoy FFXIII on my PS3, just like MGS4 and GTA 4 and many others :)
Written by dudeman on 2008/07/14

from Kotaku liveblog.....

2:01 I ask: How many discs will it ship on?

2:01 Kitase says: "That's still undecided."

2:01 I ask: "About how many?"

2:02 He laughs and won't answer.
Written by The Ow In Wow8 on 2008/07/14

Wow dudeman that was a great post...

You still crying about MS taking your game?
Written by SupremeChaotic on 2008/07/14

Why does it matter how many discs it will be on?

Most of us don't have an issue with that. For those that do, MS has provided a solution. They can copy each disc to the harddrive, and play the entire game from the HD (faster loads, quiet spins), keeping only one disc is the system tray (to prove you own the game).

So you're complaining about multi-discs was just knocked out cold. Looks like you have to find something else to cry about now.
Written by dudeman on 2008/07/14

also...ps3 japan version will remain an exclusive. There will be no xbox 360 version in japan. The xbox 360 version will not begin development until AFTER the japan version is 100% complete.

Also...Final Fantasy Versus XIII is still in development as a PS3 exclusive and will remain so.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

Dudeman: I'm just waiting for the tried and true RROD in between disc swap jokes. Or did I beat you to it. You may want to see what the trade in value of your PS3 is before it's too late...
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14

==So it Shall be Written...So it Shall be Done==

I have heard the calls...and I have come out of retirement to speak to the masses!

The prophecy hath come true!

Final Fantasy 13 is going to be released for the Xbox 360!

This was the prophecy of a wise industry insider by the name of Michael Zoran--the President of Web Force Now: hxxp://www.webforcenow.com

Long ago it was said that Final Fantasy 13 would be released for the Xbox 360. Zoran told this story, but was not believed by many. Zoran even used his incredible online force to change his screen name to Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex--a four-testicle character from Mass Effect. Yet the blind and delusional Sony lemmings would still not believe him.

Now, the SuperNova explosion hath occurred. The gravitational force of the Xbox 360 became SO STRONG that the Playstation 3 has been destroyed! Playstation 3 is now nothing more than a black hole--something where a 4th Dimension exists, and where no light escapes from...and where exclusive games from third-parties stay away from.

Xbox 360 is shining the light! The former Sony lemmings can now CLEARLY SEE!!!

Owners of the PS2 now FULLY SEE that just because the PS3 is destined to fall over a cliff to its doom, none of the PS2 owners have to!

PS2 owners now realize they are FREE to buy the Xbox 360, because the Xbox 360 has the strongest library of games in EVERY genre, including RPG and Real-Time Strategy.

Real-Time Strategy...a genre that the nearly two-year old Playstation 3 still has ZERO games on the market right now...SAD!

Infinite Undiscovery is an RPG game from Square Enix that is being released exclusively for the Xbox 360 on two discs. We don't know the size of Final Fantasy 13, but it's important to consider that the best game in the Final Fantasy series so far is part 7--which was released on multiple discs. Obviously when a long RPG game is released on more than one disc, it isn't considered a problem.

The prophecy came true! The programmers in Japan who said they were working on Final Fantasy 13 for the Xbox 360 were correct. Now it is 100% Official!

Reliable sources said all along that Devil May Cry 4, Virtua Fighter 5, Unreal Tournament 3, Assassins Creed, Fight Night Round 3, Fatal Inertia, and many other games were NOT Playstation 3 exclusives; that they would also come to the Xbox 360!

Those same reliable sources said so all along with Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13. Now we see that those sources are 100% reliable AGAIN!

Next Prophecy:

Metal Gear Solid 4 will be released for the Xbox 360 with a different subtitle, with improved graphics and extra missions.

So it Shall be Written...So it Shall be Done!
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

Keep spinning. I don't live in Japan and last time I checked nobody else on this site does. Not to mention the fact aht people don't buy 360's or 360 games in Japan. Final Fantasy Versus means what to me exactly??? 360 already has several SquareEnix games coming out between this year and next. The damage has already been done.

But you go ahead and keep running damage control ok cupcake :)

Behold the Messiah of all Xbots Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex has graced GamersReports with his presence. All SDF shall immediately bow thier heads in shame for ever doubting his prediction.
Written by dudeman on 2008/07/14

This would have been a big deal if it was God of War or something, but you xbots greatly overestimate the pull this game has. ps3 owners will enjoy the same game that has a HUGE ps3 development headstart. gimped xbox 360 version confirmed.
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14

...and by the way, Final Fantasy 13 Versus was NEVER a Playstation 3 exclusive game.

Square Enix said last year that FF13 was about 15% complete, and FF13 Versus was less than 5% complete.

I estimated that the earliest we would see FF13 would be late 2008, if not early 2009. Now, it appears FF13 will not be released until even later.

FF13 Versus won't be released until at least late 2009, perhaps 2010!

I realize that games years away from release are PERFECT for Sony Playstation 3 fans, because they have YEARS of "practice" waiting for games that are YEARS AWAY from release!!!

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LOL...Anyone DUMB ENOUGH to believe that Final Fantasy 13 won't be released for the Xbox 360 is even DUMBER than the people who didn't believe that Final Fantasy 13 would be released for the Xbox 360...especially NOW!

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Remember what the wise man hath said:

Xbox 360 has the ability to play Final Fantasy right NOW!!! Playstation 3 does NOT have the ability to play Final Fantasy right now. Anyone who thinks that Final Fantasy 13 would be released "exclusively" for the Playstation 3 is a fool.

Now--three years later--the wise man says:

Final Fantasy 13 has been Officially announced for the Xbox 360. Xbox 360 has the ability to play Final Fantasy right NOW!!! Playstation 3 does NOT have the ability to play Final Fantasy right now. Anyone who thinks that Final Fantasy 13 Versus would be released "exclusively" for the Playstation 3 is a fool.
Written by SupremeChaotic on 2008/07/14

Umm...

Welcome back?
Written by Nemesis IX on 2008/07/14

WOW i'm actually Stunned i never seen this happening, i now have absolutely no reason to buy a ps3, thats it only boring gran turismo left.
Written by kungfurabbit on 2008/07/14

If i'm not mistaken doesn't sony own a majority share in square enix like 51%. So doesn't that mean sony will get a cut of the profits when each 360 version of game is sold. Anyway i heard ms had to pay out the a$$ for this to happen.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

kungfurabbit: Actually I read it was an 18.6% minority stake in Square. That was before Square and Enix merged. It says they are the second biggest shareholder in Square. But who knows where they stand now. Bottom line is Square is trying to expand it's games sales numbers and the best thing to do is go multiplatform. Thats the prevailing theme this generation is multiplatform...

hxxp://ps2.ign.com/articles/098/098911p1.html

Well Microsoft paid out the a$$ for GTA4 to be multiplatform too. It's the price they have to pay and Sony did the last 2 generations to be a major player...
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14

Responses:

(1) The President of Square Enix has confirmed that English versions of the game will be released Worldwide Simultaneously.

(2) Japanese is a tough language to learn...if you want to play the PS3 version early, I suggest you enroll in a Japanese language class now!...considering that the PS3 has such a small number of quality exclusive games, I think you will have plenty of time to waste learning Japanese.

(3) Game Over PS3...Japan represents less than 15% of the videogame market, and the PS3 has done poorly there.

(4) God of War??? LOL...that game was released on a PS2 system with over 120 million owners, yet it only sold one-fifth as many copies as games like Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, and Grand Theft Auto 4...The sales show that only ONE game is worthy of the initials GoW, and that game is Gears of War!

(5) Final Fantasy 13 Versus was NEVER announced exclusively for the Playstation 3...and even if it was, WHY IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!!

* Fight Night Round 3 - Announced exclusively for the PS3, yet was released FIRST for the Xbox 360! That's as bad as it gets!

* Fatal Inertia 3 - Originally announced as PS3 exclusive. Then announced for Xbox 360, too. Then announced as a CANCELLED (severely delayed) game for the PS3, because the PS3 was too difficult to develop for!

Sony had better PRAY that Final Fantasy 13 doesn't end up like Fatal Inertia 3, because that would mean Final Fantasy 13 would be an Xbox 360 exclusive!

* Virtua Fighter 5, Unreal Tournament 3, Devil May Cry 4, Assassins Creed, and many others were also announced as PS3 "exclusive" games, but were also released for the Xbox 360.

(6) Xbox 360 versions of multi-platform games receive Review scores and higher Ratings than PS3 versions 98% of the time! The Xbox 360 versions receive reviews that are either "noticably" or "significantly" higher.

(7) Gamespot has a Graphics Comparison between the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 every year. Xbox 360 has won ALL THREE of the comparisons from 2006, 2007, and 2008.

With that in mind, it's VERY SAFE to bet that the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy 13 and Final Fantasy 13 Versus will have better graphics than the Playstation 3 version.
Written by incoming00 on 2008/07/14

PimpDaddy: i think MS paid more for the DLC of GTA4 then having it multiplatform. GTA3 was a time exclusive, and so was Vice City. San Andreas was released on both the PS2 and XBOX at the same time. given that trend, anyone would've guessed that GTA4 was multiplatform.

Urdnot, how is Fatal Inertia 3 a cancelled PS3 game? i have that very demo on my PS3 with the option to buy the game.
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14



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Response to B1ueBurner:

I forgive you for doubting me, my friend. I knew you were just a mortal man all along (although that little niece of yours looks like an angel). You had hope that this would happen, but you didn't have the faith in me...Now you did show your faith by offering your support again. I forgive you!

Stand beside me in a heavenly Xbox 360 game library, filled with MANY EXCLUSIVES in EVERY GENRE of gaming...and let us look below at the blind Sony lemmings and do all that we can to prevent them from following the PS3--the game system that loses exclusives on a regular basis, and constantly receives inferior versions of software.



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Response to Incoming00:

Notice that I referred to Fatal Inertia 3 as a "CANCELLED (Severely Delayed)" game.

I did that because the game was originally announced for Playstation 3, as an exclusive game. Then, it was announced for the Xbox 360, too. This was a perfect example that Official announcements using the word "exclusive" mean NOTHING when they are associated with the Playstation 3.

Afterwards, Koei officially said that Fatal Inertia was "Cancelled" for the Playstation 3. But, we now know that members of the team did continue working on the PS3 version of the game, and it was eventually re-scheduled and released--much later than the Xbox 360 version.

I hope that clears it up...it was confusing, because there were FOUR different "Official" announcements with that one.
Written by dabazbarhe on 2008/07/14

Why do some of you people hate Sony so much?

I think its just Geekish to be fair to be having these arguments. Both consoles do great, they satisfy millions of people so arguing that either is crap is just pointless.
Written by whYte420 on 2008/07/14

I hate Sony because they are completely full of shit, and there console sucks.
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14

Response to Incoming00:

(1) You are correct that I did make "educated guesses." However, the type of educated guess I was making was sort of like 4x=16? x=4.

In other words, it was an easy guess to make, because I was very well educated in this particular area.

(2) There are hundreds of programmers working on games like Final Fantasy 13 and MGS4. Games aren't made with one or two programmers like in the early 80s. Now it literally takes HUNDREDS of people who help out with graphics, sound, animation, programming, hardware assistance, ect...

(3) Friends of mine in the industry made it 100% clear that they were and are working on Final Fantasy 13 and Metal Gear Solid 4 for the Xbox 360...they have been for a LOOOOONG time!

There is NO WAY that all of those people can keep 100% quiet on what they are working on. Some of them spill the beans to their friends, some tell their husband or wife, and some tell the media to try and make some unreported cash.

(4) One of the things you NEED to realize is that Sony is so desperate at this point in time that the literally make payments to videogame companies strictly so they do not announce games for other systems.

In other words, even though EVERYONE with reliable sources in the industry knew that Final Fantasy 13 and MGS4 were being developed for the Xbox 360, Sony didn't want consumers to know that. As a result, Sony desperately paid those companies not to make any "Official" announcements for the Xbox 360, because those games were so far away from release.

A lot of time has passed, though. It's the 2008 E3. And enough time passed that Square Enix "Officially" announced Final Fantasy 13 for the Xbox 360.

(5) MGS4 is a little bit different, though. Sony has actually worked out a deal with Konami to include MGS4 as a pack-in with the system. That's why you seen ads that say "MGS4: Guns of the Patriots, exclusively on the PS3."

I never said that the PS3 would not receive MGS4. I simply said that the game would be released for BOTH the PS3 and the Xbox 360...and it SHALL!

MGS4: Guns of the Patriots will remain 100% exclusive to the Playstation 3.

However, the Xbox 360 version of MGS4 will have a slightly different subtitle. The Xbox 360 version will include extra missions not found in the Playstation 3 version...that much is GUARANTEED.

It really would be foolish to doubt this, since this EXACT same thing happened with MGS2 on the PS2.

(6) Blu-ray didn't "Win" anything. DVD easily "won" the war against VHS cassettes. VHS cassettes easily "won" the war against Sony's Beta format.

Blu-ray is in a much different situation, though. Blu-ray wasn't just competing against HD-DVD. Blu-ray is even competing against competitors that weren't on the market at the time it was released. Here are some examples:

(a) Blu-ray sales have NOT increased since the format war against HD-DVD came to an end.

(b) Blu-ray is being completely outsold by standard DVD discs. And look at the hardware sales of HDMI DVD Players that upconvert the signals to 1080p. Those 1080p DVD sales DESTROY those of Blu-ray.

(c) PS3 is no longer the least expensive Blu-ray player, and there are even less expensive versions on the way. So that "trojan horse" strategy of Blu-ray may have helped Blu-ray beat HD-DVD, but it will NOT help PS3 beat Xbox 360.

(d) If you are interested in a Blu-ray player, the PS3 is NOT the best choice...The PS3 outputs video at 60hz, not the optimal 24hz that a dedicated Blu-ray player outputs video.

(e) Blu-ray DID LOSE to HD-DVD in several ways. For example, the DVD Forum Officially chose HD-DVD as the successor to DVD. Blu-ray LOST that competition. Here's why:

* Sony brochures talked a lot about how a Blu-ray disc has 25GB per layer compared to 15GB per layer on an HD-DVD...but here is what was and IS IMPORTANT:

The STANDARD for Blu-ray movie discs is a one-layer 25GB disc. The STANDARD for HD-DVD movie discs is a dual-layer 30GB disc. HD-DVD discs had 5GB of extra space compared to their Blu-ray counterparts. Movies that were released on both formats often had an extra sound format included in the HD-DVD version.

(f) Blu-ray discs almost always use the outdated MPEG-2 compression technology. MPEG-2 is the exact same compression technology that standard DVD discs use. That's why standard DVD discs look virtually identical to Blu-ray discs when you play the DVD discs on a player that upconverts them to 1080p.

(g) HD-DVD discs were not "equal" to Blu-ray since both had a native 1080p resolution. HD-DVD looked noticably better because all HD-DVD discs were required to use the brand new VC-1 compression technology to output the video.

(h) Blockbuster video has closed about 600 stores in the last two years. Blu-ray discs are obviously NOT helping the industry. Blu-ray has already LOST to "On-Demand" video services. It's just a matter of time until it becomes "official."

For example, the Xbox 360 now has the ability to play movies that were downloaded from NetFlix! That is AMAZING! That is a feature that NetFlix has signed EXCLUSIVELY with the Xbox 360.

(i) If you compare the quality of standard DVD discs that are upconverted to 1080p, there are many times when the DVD discs actually look BETTER than Blu-ray discs!

Compare The Last Samurai on DVD and Blu-ray. There is NO DOUBT that the DVD version looks better.

Compare digitally mastered movies such as Terminator 2, the Alien movies, the Indiana Jones movies, the Star Wars movies, and many others on DVD to ANY movie on Blu-ray! Those Digitally Mastered DVD discs running at 1080p look BETTER than most Blu-ray movies!

Sure, Terminator 2 on Blu-ray looks slightly better than Terminator 2 on DVD, but there are negatives that go with that. On Blu-ray you can CLEARLY see that it is NOT Arnold in 90% of the stunt scenes. And there is a LOT more Digital Noise that is visible in many spots. Unless a movie has been Digitally Remastered, the Blu-ray "advantage" is NOT worth spending $35 for a movie that you already have on DVD!

(7) You are correct that I understood (and still understand) the videogame market better than any of you do.

However, I would like to point out that PimpDaddy is my right-hand man who is like my shadow--he knows what I know, and makes the same sort of "educated guesses" that I do.

Also, guys such as arthur56k, daveydz3, poprocker, Quinton, Supreme Chaotic, Whyte, The Ow in Wow, and many others have talked to me with private messages. Each of those guys is VERY INTELLIGENT...

Nemesis is very intelligent, too, and so is B1ueBurner. I have a lot of respect for both of them. I'm actually amazed that they claim they are surprised with this announcement. I said this would happen for YEARS! I'm actually stunned that you doubted me this much. Thankfully, there is no reason to doubt me now.

Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/14



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Response to Kungfurabbit:

You are 100% mistaken!

Sony is NOT a majority shareholder in Square Enix. Sony isn't even close to being one of the larger "minority" shareholders.

The only money that shareholders receive from dividends is what the company "decides" to give them. And not all shares receive money from dividends, either.

To give you an example, Microsoft was a corportation for decades before they ever decided to share dividends with their shareholders...and the ONLY reason Microsoft did that was because they basically had no other choice, since they had $80 BILLION in Liquid-Asset (Cash)!

In other words, Microsoft could have purchased the ENTIRE Sony Group in a way that made them the 100% owner, and still had about $25 Billion left over.

When Bill Gates got his first check, it was for $3.4 Billion dollars...and he didn't hesitate to give it to charity!

That's one of the reasons why I like him so much!
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

Holy sh!t Krogan you sure did make up for lost time with that one post :p That was like awhole novel. Damn I may need to read that whole thing in installments :p
Written by whYte420 on 2008/07/14

Korgan, you are 100% correct! Good Job!
Written by blacktiger on 2008/07/14

lol !!!!!!!!

I ain't reading Krogan's novel,

no time for that but FF13 sales went down since FF11,

That;s why SONY never paid the price for exclusive,

You think SONY can't afford 50 million dollar for GTAIV,

and we all know SONY has a higher chance of paying FF13 for exclusive , because their both japanese, but with PS3 exclusive, I dont think SONY cares about third party exclusive anymore...
Written by blacktiger on 2008/07/14

PIMP:

In other words, Microsoft could have purchased the ENTIRE Sony Group in a way that made them the 100% owner, and still had about $25 Billion left over.

When Bill Gates got his first check, it was for $3.4 Billion dollars...and he didn't hesitate to give it to charity!

Umm Bill Gates is not the only who gives to charity...

And about buying SONY, your right they did the same thing with YAHOO and got rejected...

DON'T BE STUPID PIMP !
Written by blacktiger on 2008/07/14

And PIMP,

Microsoft has all that much money, while your Xbox 360 is on RROD!

Bill Gate doesn't feel comfortable giving the money back or at least to fix it,

You talking about how much money they have , while not reporting how much damage MS have done with Xbox360

That's right, They don't care about you, and I hope your RROD is fixed as soon as possible !

So you can play your Xbox 360 :p

That's how Microsoft make money by not giving a crap,

that's why their stocks has been down since 2002 !

and it went up when VISTA came out, and BOOM ! it went down again because ppl are sick and tired of trusting Microsoft,

They bullshit and they lie,

They say they care, what about spending the money to fix it,

Bad idea because then they'll loose money...

These Microsoft money is jsut begining to shrink down with Macintosh taking over...
Written by blacktiger on 2008/07/14

HEY DABA,

I tried to be fair both side have great things to offer, but these guys really hate themself so much...

that's the only way you can become a ignorant fanboy !

I would never love PS3 or Xbox 360 winning the race otherwise it'll 2000 thousand dollar console because its the only thing that exist,

more competition means more better games and more affordable console...

Dudeman are you serious he won't answer that question, how many disc it will ship.

NOW THATS A SHAME !
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/07/14

blacktiger: you kept calling me out by name when you were responding to Krogans posts. Are you that stupid that you get us confused??? We post in 2 totally seperate styles.

Damn son dry those tears of sadness from today's Microsoft beatdown of Sony. Then maybe you would have read his posts correctly and took the time to respond to him accordingly. Don't ever confuse me with another member on this site again.
Written by dabazbarhe on 2008/07/15

And how are Sony full of shit?

I have a PS3 and its a fantastic console.

It is so quiet you forget its switched on,

its processing power is unbelievable.

The internet is free on it i.e no yearly costs,

it doesn't break down unlike the 360, all of my friends have had to have their 360 fixed at some point.

O yea and the little thing of blu ray, which is important considering all you will see in the shops will be blu ray rather than DVDs in the future.

Bascially the 360 is a cheap man's PS3.

360 is a cheap console, with an ugly online interface which introduces features Sony has had for ages such as playing games off the HDD

Its all common sense people. I don't know why you rip on ps3 so much some of you? Its like this very defensive reaction from 360 fans as soon as you say that anything is wrong with it. Stop kidding yourselves.
Written by captkey3s on 2008/07/15

Hey Krogan you said MG4 was coming to Xbox360 i guess it wasn't written huh?

Guys we did all this work to get rid of him lets not bring him back please. I can deal with the usual bickering that goes on here and appreciate it but i refuse to read his essays, just cause Krogan saw something on another blog or site doesn't mean we should all praise Krog-ass. We all heard rumblings of this if you didn't you go to the wrong websites then.

PS. I don't want a fucking mandatory Avat(mii too)
Written by arthur56k on 2008/07/15

the biggest franchise in playststaion history, and Sony couldnt secure it, and they own shares in square enix
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/15

Response to captkey3s:

I said from the beginning that Metal Gear Solid 4 would be released on the Xbox 360 approximately 6 months to 1 year after the game was released on the Playstation 3 version. I even pointed out the sources that I heard that information from.

I can still GUARANTEE that Metal Gear Solid will be released on the Xbox 360!

I can GUARANTEE it because the game has been in development for the Xbox 360 for quite a while!

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will remain exclusive to the Playstation 3...the "subtitle" name is just a trick so that Konami and Sony can say "We told you that MGS4: Guns of the Patriots was an 'exclusive' game."

The FACT is that Xbox 360 will receive a game called:

Metal Gear Solid 4: With a Different Subtitle

This will be the EXACT same thing that happened with Metal Gear Solid 2 when it came to the original Xbox.

Oh...I just want to remind you that Metal Gear Solid 4: With a Different Subtitle will have extra missions not found in the Playstation 3 version.

So it Shall be Written...So it Shall be Done!
Written by captkey3s on 2008/07/15

Hey Krog-ass, where did thou get such wisdom cause i remember reading this on a blog awhile back. I personally don't care what goes where but stop with the long ass post about shit we heard somewhere else. Do you have one thing you can really say you predicted that wasn't already out there. one thing.

Please crawl back under your rock because you add nothing to the conversation.
Written by Krogan Battle Master Urdnot Wrex on 2008/07/15

Response to captkey3s:

Sure, I have a couple answers for you.

(1) I said Metal Gear Solid 4 would miss Christmas of 2007 way before any website or magazine did.

(2) I said Final Fantasy 13 would not see a release in 2008 long before any magazine or website did.

Happy???

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Response to dabazbarhe:

==DEFECTS are COMMON with Playstation 3==

(1) DEFECTS are VERY COMMON for the Playstation 3!!!

Firmware Update 2.4 was recently released for the Playstation 3, and it PROVED that ALL MODELS of the Playstation 3 have MAJOR DEFECTS.

In fact, the percentage of Defective Playstation 3 systems is a LOT HIGHER than 33%...it is nearly 100%!

Firmware Update 2.4 will definitely NOT be the last problem that we see with the Playstation 3! It's safe to say that future Firmware Updates will cause similar problems that "brick" the Playstation 3 in similar ways.

(2) Thanks to Firmware Update 2.4, I, and MANY OTHERS, saw our Playstation 3 hard drive become COMPLETELY USELESS! The hard drive needed to be completey REFORMATTED!!! That means all files needed to be erased. It took HOURS to put them back!

When I got everything working again, I repeated the process, and the Playstation 3 showed its "true colors" with DEFECTS AGAIN!!!

I had to send Sony my ENTIRE Playstation 3, just because their cheap hard drives become defective with their own Firmware Updates!



==Internet is for the PC==

Microsoft does NOT want people using a game system for the Internet. The Internet will ALWAYS be best used for all of your needs on the PC. That much is a FACT!

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==PS3 is Quiet==

If having a "quiet fan" is THAT important to you, spend $10 and buy one of the special add-on devices for the Xbox 360 that supply you with a deluxe fan even quieter than the PS3 fan!



==Processing Power==

The PS3 has wonderful "Math" processing power that is called Floating Point Operations per second or FLOPS. That "power" is virtually USELESS for videogame Graphics. As a "Calculator" or as an "Accounting Device" the Playstation 3 has the Xbox 360 outgunned by about a 2:1 ratio. But as a Videogame System, the Xbox has the Playstation 3 outgunned by about a 2:1 ratio...thats why many Xbox 360 games run at TWICE the framerate as their Playstation 3 counterparts!

The reason for that is because the Xbox 360 GPU can display up to 500,000,000 polygons per second compared to 275,000,000 polygons per second for the Playstation 3. The proof is in the pudding. THAT is the simple mathematical reason why the Xbox 360 versions of many games run at TWICE the framerate as the PS3 version. The bottom mathimatical line is that if the PS3 version displays less than 250,000,000 polygons per second at 30 frames per second, then then Xbox 360 version will end up running at 60 frames per second. And there have been quite a few instances where this occurred.



==Graphic Comparisons prove Xbox 360 is Better than PS3==

Gamespot has conducted a Graphics Comparison between the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 each year that the systems have been available--2006, 07, 08.

Xbox 360 has EASILY beaten the Playstation 3 in ALL THREE of the Graphic Comparisons!

Xbox 360 games have graphics that are either "noticably" or "significantly" better than their Playstation 3 counterparts.

Xbox 360 versions of games are rated higher than their Playstation 3 counterparts 98% of the time!



==PS3 has virtually NO EXCLUSIVE 3rd Party Support. 360 DOES!==

At this point in time, the Xbox 360 is the system that receives the overwhelming majority of exclusive support from third-party developers.

Playstation 3 has been available nearly TWO YEARS and it still has ZERO games available in certain Genres.

For example, the Playstation 3 has ZERO games in the Real-Time Strategy genre.

Games like Command & Conquer 3, Battle for Midearth 2, Universe at War, and Red Alert are released for Xbox 360 and PC, but NOT for the Playstation 3.

Another example is Square Enix: We now see that ALL games from Square Enix are being released for the Xbox 360. Final Fantasy 13 games are being released for BOTH the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. HOWEVER, Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean: The Last Hope are being released exclusively for the Xbox 360. Even The Last Remnant is going to be a timed-exclusive for the Xbox 360. Obviously the Xbox 360 is the system to get if you enjoy RPG games from Square Enix.





==Xbox 360 has PROVER PERFORMANCE Superiority==

The Gamespot Graphics comparison shows that games look either "noticably" or "significantly" better on the Xbox 360. Some of it goes deeper than screen-shot comparisons, though. There are quite a few games from quite a few developers where the Xbox 360 version runs at TWICE the framerate as the Playstation 3 version! Gamespot talks about how the Xbox 360 versions will run "smoothly" at 60 frames per second, while the Playstation 3 versions still "struggle to run smoothly," even though they are only running at 30 frames per second.

And then there are games that run at 30 frames per second on both systems. The Xbox 360 version of F.E.A.R runs smoothly at 30 frames per second. Yet the Playstation 3 version STRUGGLES to run at 30 frames per second. Just read the reviews to see the proof that F.E.A.R. will actually drop BELOW 20 (yes, TWENTY) frames per second on the Playstation 3, and go into an 8-bit style screen-flicker mode with slow-motion! It is THAT BAD on the Playstation 3.

Games like Orange Box received "Game of the Year" on the Xbox 360 with scores of 10 out of 10 and 100%, but the Playstation 3 version received scores of less than 8 out of 10, and less than 80%. The reason for that is because the Playstation 3 GPU is so much less advanced than the Xbox 360 GPU that was so far ahead of its time--using technology that PC Graphics cards didn't see until January of 2007.
Written by dabazbarhe on 2008/07/16

Dude its fact PS3 has more exclusive titles than the 360, go on wiki and count the exclusive titles yourself.

And i love the percentage you came up with for PS3 defects, it sounds like you plucked it out of the air.

Your main argument focuses around firmware 2.4, o and guess what my PS3 had absolutely no problems with the update, neither did any of my friends.

And what is hilarious is that i got the very defensive response from an xbox fan than i expected. I think you need to realise that the potential is there for the processing power to be utilised. At E3 the developers said that they are only scratching the surface with the PS3 and no game has used 80% of the power yet. But i guess with 250 player online battles coming then that potential will be realised.

And what you said about the fan optimises Microsoft. It is a console of unlimited hardware add ons and so an unlimited spend price. At least i know my PS3 is ready to go out of the box.
Written by dabazbarhe on 2008/07/16

And as a matter of fact, PS3 breakdowns are less than 1% where as Xbox 360's are 18% some studies show while other retailers claim that the number is more than 30%. Stop making crap up about ps3 defects.
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