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2008/08/20 12:01:33: Posted by DM
The new game from Quantic Dream that has everyone going bonkers, including us, Heavy Rain, is showing off a new trailer at Leipzig. You can see it below, and it looks great. Combine that with QD's ability to spin a serious yarn, and this game is going to be one to own, mark our words.



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Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/20

I was just about to post this in the forums. Looks awesome, and though I was hoping Quantic dreams would step away from using QTEs, but it didn't stop me from enjoying Indigo Prophecy so it's no big deal.

This is the PS3 game of 2009 IMO.
Written by Sky on 2008/08/20

PS3 Will have a Game of the year 09 in just about every genre

Racing GT5

RPG FF13 and or White knight

Adventure Heavy Rain

Action God of War 3

FPS Kill Zone 2

Sony's approach on building a solid first party foundation instead of MS's "lets rely on 3rd party approach", will take the PS3 to new heights.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/20

Sky: What new flavor of Sony KoolAid are you drinking today? All those games do sound great. Now lets hope PS3 owners actually spend some money on them instead of Blu-Ray movies :p

Becuaue as we have seen 1st party titles on the PS3 don't sell very well and end up having to be bundled to artificially boost sales numbers... *cough* *cough* RFOM, Motorstorm, and soon to be Uncharted *cough* *cough*
Written by Sky on 2008/08/20

all those games you listed sold over a million copies.. sounds like a success to me especially for New IP's and with a console with a lower install base.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/20

Sky: You dizzy???
Written by VaeVictus on 2008/08/20

I'm not sure what to make of this game. I'd like to know more about it. If it's an interactive story and nothing but QTE, I'm not sure if it's something I really want to "play."
Written by Sky on 2008/08/20

Pimp daddy maybe you should pay more attention to sales age.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/20

Sky: What I know is this. The PS3 is only 5-6 million behind the 360 in worldwide sales. Yet the PS3 attach rate is a lot lower than the 360 attach rate. Which leads me to believe that 100% of people who buy a 360 got it as a videogame console. Where as with the PS3 that percentage is divided between people who bought it as a videogame console and people who bought it as a Blu-Ray player.

I do track sales of games. To me attach ratio is a better indicator of sales than total sales since there is a disparity between the 360 and PS3 user bases.

That being said the 360 game attach ratio is the highest in videogame history. Last time I checked even the Wii had a higher game attach rate.

So while SDF guys like yourself talk about these great games. XDF guys like myself actually buy these games.
Written by Sky on 2008/08/20

All those games you listed sold over a million.. like i said before sounds good to me for the caliber titles they are. pretty solid first gen PS3 games which climbed to over a million in sales each.
Written by VaeVictus on 2008/08/21

Pimp, attach rates for the Wii are in fact lower. It goes like this...360,PS3,Wii.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

Sky, quit being a tool. Yes those 3 ps3 games have sold a million copies, and two of them were pack-ins, what's your point? According to you sony-fantards, every year is "the year of the ps3" and every year we come to find out that it's not. Why does any year have to ONLY be the year of one console? So many of you idiots thought that MS had no games for 08, but this year's line up is better than last years on the 360, and at the same time it's a lot better for the ps3 as well. Fuckin fanboys need to just STFU. Also salesage = lol

Victus, sorry the Wii's attach rate is higher than the ps3s.
Written by VaeVictus on 2008/08/21

That is if you factor in Wii play (pack in). I guess it depends on how you look at it. It's sorta like Sony inflated sales of Motorstorm with the bundle.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

Sorry, I see where you're coming from, but in sales, it's not similar. While I don't think it's fair to count Wiiplay either, it still counts and can't really be compared to a pack-in game with the system. You're forced to have said game when you buy a system, which adds +1 to the attach rate if included (which they rarely do), but no one is forced to buy wiiplay.

Besides other games like GH3 and maybe even Rock band sell more on the Wii than the ps3. I don't know if many people have noticed, but the Wii has really been tearing up the software charts lately in all regions. Yeah, it's mostly 1st party and the occasional music game, but it's all the same in the world of attach rates. I know the 360 is at around 7.8 (how do you have a .8 of a game anyways?) followed by the Wii then the ps3.
Written by VaeVictus on 2008/08/21

Yeah, it sells a crapload of crappy shovelware and crazy Japanese games that only appeal to their culture.

Sorry, Wii = fail. But we've already discussed that, lol.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

*shakes head* lol

The Wii = fun my friend.
Written by Sky on 2008/08/21

08 and beyond are years of the ps3. sony and there strong first party support enables that. we are guaranteed good exclusives for years to come on top of third party games. kenny i heard your xbox died? did you get it replaced? one less thing you have to worry about if you stick with blu .
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Wii = Fun

Wii = Craptacular last gen graphics

Wii = Serious profit for Nintendo

Wii = Success

I own a Wii for it's first party exclusives. Not too mayy 3rd party games interest me at the moment. Especially when I can get the HD versions with online play and a familiar controller for $10.00 more.

Sky: I will admit the PS3 is finally getting it's sh!t together. But you were claiming that 2007 was the year of the PS3. Now 2008. Then 2009.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. Microsoft is here to stay. Go ahead and insert standard SDF reply #1 (RROD joke) from the SDF manual when you comment back.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

For fucks sake sky, I really hope you're just joking around with your BS because you're just as bad as krogan.

08 and beyond will be good years for the ps3, no doubt there, but why does that indicate that 08 and beyond CAN'T be good years for the Wii and 360? Oh yeah, because everything is great and good in sony land while us poor Wii and 360 owners have to suffer in your biased opinion.

With how much the whole RRoD fiasco has improved, you fuckin idiots are going to have to find something else to hang on to. Trolling about 360 and RRoD is no better than the assholes that say the ps3 doesn't have any good games. Both are incorrect and just ignorant.

If you're going to do anything sky, help clean the gene pool and go lay down in a street, I'm not in the mood for your fucking bullshit, it's the reason why I left to begin with.

I love how I can keep the comments and topic only on this fuckin ps3 game, but you fuckin immiture and insecure idiots have to bring a console war to all of this, good fuckin job proving how stupid you are.

Also pimpdady,

Just because graphics may be last gen, that doesn't mean they have to be "crappy". The artistic nature of the graphics themselves play a huge part in how a game looks no matter what system the said game is on.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

I have to add, that what you fucking ps3 fanboy idiots don't realize is that these future years of the ps3 only look so good because the first couple years were so horrible. Maybe if you guys really had a steady flow of good games and features since day one, then may, JUST MAYBE, you guys wouldn't be busting a nut to every quality game or feature like in game messaging or trophies. A jewel always shines brightest when it's surrounded by shit.

/rant
Written by Sky on 2008/08/21

what a silly rant kenny cage. what's your psn id?
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

What's so silly about it? The fact that it's true, or the fact that you are ignoring it.

And what makes you think I have a ps3 yet? I need to have a working HDTV to be able to use a ps3 seeing as how it doesn't support proper VGA/RGB. So after I get my car fixed, my TV is next on the "to do" list.

Regardless, what makes you think I'd give my PSN id to you? I tend to gravitate away from ignorant idiots like you

It's the legion of sony fantards like you that make me not want to get a ps3 this year.

I'm still deciding between a Wii or ps3 and this site makes me want a Wii more and more
Written by Sky on 2008/08/21

maybe you should broaden your horizons and not visit this site only. and you gave me your live name you clown did you forget? i run this site now so becareful how you address me.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

I find it amusing that someone who's always wearing the sony goggles, while always sipping on the sony-koolaid, pulling shit out of his ass just to feel important is telling me to broaden my horizon. I'm not the tool that bases every comment or thought to how one console is better than the other.

Also lol @ me only visiting this site. If only you knew what I've been up to since I've been gone. This site is the least of my interests.

I remember you being on my friend's list, but I also remember how much of a waste you were since you were never on. It's almost as if you purchased a 360 just so you might be excused to bash it like an idiot.

lol careful how I address you? Fuck off, people like you really need to die in a fire.
Written by Sky on 2008/08/21

i bought 360 to play games and im happy with it. learn how to address your superiors. respect me like a stop sign
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

You don't need a 360, the ps3 will blaze the gaming trail for years on end, and nothing can come close.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: I have to respectfully disagree with you about the Wii. There are some games that look good on the Wii. If the Wii had been around 7 years ago. To me the graphics on the Wii haven't progressed especially in comparion to the 360 and PS3. I have a 1080P HDTV so I can tell a huge difference...

Every generation of consoles since my Atari 2600 days have always pushed the graphics up a notch whenever the next generatio of consoles game out.

Atari 2600 --> Atari 5200 --> Atari 7800 --> Jaguar

Sega Master system --> Genesis --> Saturn --> Dreamcast

Sony PS1 --> PS2 -- PS3

Xbox --> Xbox 360

Then we get to Nintendo

NES --> SNES --> N64 --> Gamecube/Wii



Sky: I never hear you say anything positive about the 360. It's always PS3 this, PS3 that. Stop being Jack Tretton's b!tch already. I will admit I was seriously down on the PS3 at this time last year. And for good reason. I bought one, it had exactly one game that I liked. That was WarHawk. PSN sucked donkey balls compared to Live. So I ended up trading it in and getting another 360.

But fast forward to a year later and PSN is actually worth a damn now. There are actually a few games besides WarHawk that I like, they got force feedback, and dropped the price 200 dollars.

None of these consoles are perfect. And noe of them is going to totally dominate this generation. The Wii will eventually slow down. More people will get HDTV's and broadband online. The 360 and PS3 will keep coming down in price.

By the time all is said and done this generation we will have had a 3 way race. Not total Sony domination like the prior 2 generations.

Stop acting so insecure...
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

"Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: I have to respectfully disagree with you about the Wii. There are some games that look good on the Wii. If the Wii had been around 7 years ago. To me the graphics on the Wii haven't progressed especially in comparion to the 360 and PS3. I have a 1080P HDTV so I can tell a huge difference..."

You shouldn't expect the Wii's graphics to progress as much as the ps3's or 360's, the Wii doesn't have near the amount of power as the higher end consoles. So I would hope you would see a difference.

Also anything that is displayed in SD resolutions will probably look like butt on a HDTV, especially a 1080p HDTV where you will have the largest amount of upscaling. upscaling itself degrades IQ, so that further kills the picture
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: It's not that I expected HD graphics from the Wii. I knew Nintendo chose not to go the HD graphics route. It's that I expected Wii games to at least look significantly better than Gamecube games. They don't. At least not yet... They could have at least put hardware in that would push the graphics at the 480i/p level.

I have played a Wii on an old SD tv at 480i. It's probably just the graphics whore in me complaining and wishing I could play Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc... in HD.

Like I said I got the Wii for the first party Nintendo games. Also because the wife and kids wanted it. But even they prefer the 360 over the Wii. In fact besides the occasional Wii sports, Wii Play, and Super Smash Brothers, the Wii doesn't get any time on the TV any more.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

Hardware just doesn't scale like that. When the components are really just overclocked Gamecube components (with added TEV units and more memory) than you really shouldn't expect anything "significantly" better.

Yes the games will continue to look and play better, but just because you limit the resolution, this doesn't mean you can automatically use the saved computational power to provide better graphics.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: Nintendo said that the Wii was basically 1.5 times powerful as the Gamecube or equivalent to the original Xbox with the exception of the GPU not being up to par with the Xbox.

I'm just saying with a faster CPU/GPU/more RAM. Can't we expect better from the Wii than we have seen???
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

You have though, from the teams that are willing to put forth the effort.

MP3, Mario Galaxy, Smash Brothers, and The conduit are all games that are above the usual GC title.

Many publishers don't feel the need to put that kind of effort, and more importantly, money behind a title when graphics are usually not a selling point of a Wii title.

I'm not arguing with you at all, I'm just saying that the games your looking for are there if you look for them.
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: I don't feel like were arguing. You have your opinion. I have mine. We can agree to disagree.

I do see your point that those games you listed have better graphics than Gamecube versions. But I still expected better.

Just hard for me to figure out whether it's the hardware, the developers, or both that are keeping Wii games from looking better... I'm sure once I get the component cables for the Wii the games will look better too.

Component cables made a big difference on my Xbox switching from 480i to 480P.
Written by Kenny K on 2008/08/21

lol I didn't even know we were disagreeing. In a way I can agree with you, but out of curiosity when you say you were expecting better, what were you expecting exactly? It's an honest question because I expected the majority of these Wii games to match xbox games but most don't even do that.

My main point is that the Wii has the capability to look better than the GC
Written by PimpDaddy on 2008/08/21

Kenny K: You hit the nail on the head. I was expecting at least Xbox Quality. Not Xbox multiplatform quality, but Xbox exclusive quality games.

People were saying the Wii was supposed to be twice as powerful as the Gamecube. So even if it is Gamecube 1.5 or Xbox Lite I thought we would get better graphics then what we were seeing.

I probably just had misguided expectations. I like the "fun" factor of Nintendo games so thats why I got a Wii. Like I said if I am disappointed it's only because the HD graphics that even the most poorly programmed 360/PS3 game display have raised the bar for me.

It's why when people try to say a game like Too Human has Wii quality graphics I wan't to throw up...

I have joked before that the Wii is just a recycled, overclocked Gamecube with a fancy white paint job and a gimmicky controller. There is some truth in there. It also makes me wonder if Nintendo could have just made a Wii-mote for the Gamecube...
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